Thoughts on Vick in Eagles Green

Michael VickI wasn’t at the Eagles preseason game against the Patriots last night.  I traded my ticket to Eric for his tickets and snagged my other seatmate’s ticket for the Jags game on August 27th. Thanks Chris, you rock!  I’m not one for preseason games anyway… give me the games that mean something.  So it seemed more interesting at home anyway, last night.  The game announcers were lame, but I do like hearing Hugh Douglas any time.  Then, I get a phone call from Todd, which at the time, couldn’t answer.  A text message follows shortly reading, “We got Michael Vick!!!!!”  My response to him, as about half the text messages I receive from Todd are less than serious, was resounding laughter.  Here’s the transcript:

Todd: We got Michael Vick!!!!!
Chuck: LOLOL
Todd: Fkn seriously! On my kids.
Chuck: I hate you
Todd: Why?
Todd: I am sooooo not lying!!!!!!
Chuck: For me 2nd guessing my team for a second
Todd: You really do not believe!!!
Chuck: No
Todd: Really… Mortenson just said it ESP fkn N!!!!
Chuck: Holy f***ing sh**

A few things from this little exchange…

  1. Todd was very excited about this news
  2. I didn’t believe it at all
  3. This was the reaction, or close to it, that swept through Philadelphia and Eagles fans all over the world.

Shortly after, Todd called me, and Eric called me (who heard it on the concourse at The Linc), and I started receiving texts from others.  Oh word spread quickly. I jumped on twitter to see the live reactions and participate in the conversation.  At first it was all anger.  I saw messages from fans denouncing their fandom.  I saw people denouncing the Eagles, I saw people denouncing the NFL, and I saw a lot of hatred for Michael Vick.  At a few times during the night, “Vick”, “Eagles” and other variations were the top trending topics on twitter.  I don’t recall ever seeing a sports-related topic get in the top ten trends.  It was instant mania.  Fans of our show wrote me asking me for my opinion.  Last night I didn’t have a solid one.  I was still in shock, and I didn’t know how to think about the whole thing.  Hell, I had all my barbs lined up for whatever team DID sign Vick, to be honest.

The Eagles making this move never crossed my mind.  First of all, Andy Reid has built a team of character players, always has.  Owner Jeff Lurie even talked about team and player character a few weeks ago!  Second of all, I figured the quarterback scheme was set.  With Donovan McNabb as the solid starter, future wunderkind Kevin Kolb as his backup, and reserve A.J. Feeley as the third string, I honestly didn’t think that would be shaken up.  Granted I’m not happy with this quarterback setup, except for McNabb.  Personally, Kolb has not impressed me, but as Eric has pointed out before, he’s inexperienced, and has been thrown into bad situations.  Feeley is definitely the weakest link of the three, and has not shown anything worthwhile since the 2002 season.  So the Eagles management made the decision to bring Vick in, that task is now done.  We, as fans, have to move on and accept it.

The arguments on both sides last night ranged from “Vick’s a scumbag, and I’ve lost respect for the Eagles and I will not be a fan any more!” to “Vick has done his time in prison, he has publicly repented, and the ASPCA has even agreed to his NFL reinstatement.”

Right now I’m still sorting it all out.   I’m very curious to also hear what Eric and Todd have to say about this.  Should this be this big a deal?  Obviously the news media and fans think so.

What I want to know is, what do YOU think?  Let us know in the comments below, or send us an email, or call us on our voicemail line.  We do this show as fans, so we want to hear your voice especially.  Bring it!

 

6 replies


  1. Good, bad or ugly on the deal.

    I can speak from a similar deal that happened in Australian Football this year. Ben Cousins from the West Coast Eagles won a Brownlow (similar to a mvp award), was involved in drug takings and eventually sacked from his club and out of the game for one year. The team I supported Richmond eventually picked him in the draft as no one wanted him. What eventually happened was huge amount of publicity (good and bad)on the individual and the club, it eventually sold heaps of season tickets. He has now became a success story with his leadership off and on the field for the team.

    On Vick, i suppose everybody should be given a second chance, I applaud the Eagles for pushing the boundaries on their decision. Basically he wont be playing each week and probably will not be an option until next year anyway.How many athletics comeback to their best after 2 years out of their game?

    Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

    AussieMike
    ps how many shootouts will we be involved in this year ?


  2. I’m so conflicted about this. Yes, I think people in life should get 2nd chances and can change. Yes, I wanted some other team to pick up Vick. I feel totally hypocritical. How to figure this one out?
    A) This is good for Donovan. He gets to be a mentor to the one he wants. He didn’t have any say in signing Kolb and that was a huge distraction
    B) In the short term, what’s good for Donovan is good for the Eagles :-)
    C) Longer term, how will we feel if Donovan hands over the keys to Vick in 2 years? Will Vick really be our guy?

    Drama drama drama!

    It’s not clear cut. Bad behavior. Salvation and second chances. And win v losing. Tough stuff.


  3. My opinion keeps changing, but the one constant remains- he’s not that good of a QB to bring this kind of attention and vibe to the team. I heard someone say that they brought him on so they basically own the rights to him in a trade next year. Any thoughts on that?


  4. I’m still in an incredible amount of disbelief since all this has taken place. When I first heard the news, I seriously froze and didn’t know what to say. Watching all the different networks talk about this made HALF of my stomach turn. Obviously, like everyone else, I had no idea and no concern that my team would even be interested..but also I felt as though, maybe, it made a bit of hidden since. I’m not the type of guy to hate people for what they’ve done in the past, and I wanted to see him return. Heck some people in this league have done worse things. I just didn’t forsee him being an eagle. However, putting aside his past, I firmly believe that, WHEN REINSTATED, he can help the offense by forcing defenses to account for his presence. With all that said, the guy won’t be ready to help the team any other way this year, and he still hasn’t proved he has the same ability he used to. That’s why I’m very very back-and-forth on my opinion about this.


  5. Well, I have had a few days to digest this ginormous story. I have heard the massive amounts of feedback (both favorable and quite unfavorable) and I have formed my opinion, based largely on the following:

    * It is the Eagles stated mission to put the best possible product on the field in an attempt to win a championship (hopefully multiple ones, but I digress).

    * When pledging allegiance to a pro sports team, one is rooting for the name on the FRONT of the jersey, not the back.

    With those two thoughts, I am on board with the signing. However, let me be clear. What he did was reprehensible. Awful. I am a dog-lover and always have been. I have a chocolate lab and although he is the dumbest dog alive, I would not want ANYONE to harm him and I would reply in kind if one did. I will not be buying a Mick Vick #7 jersey, poster, or dog collar. But, he committed a crime, was caught, sentenced, and served his time handed to him by a jury of his peers. I believe it is time to move on, and think about DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin split out wide, B-West in the backfield, and Mike Vick somewhere on the field. Peeps, that is A LOT of speed for a defense to try and contain.


  6. As much as I agree with Eric’s comment about name on the front vs. name on the back I cannot look past his transgressions.

    Signing Mike Vick/Ron Mexico sheds such a negative light on the team, it saddens me. Whatever happened to character first? Ok maybe it was time to loosen those reigns but wow. To go from the gold standard to the gutter…Look out for that first step, it a doozie!

    As far as I am concerned he does deserve a second chance, just not here, not on my team.

    Until he is gone I will consider myself an Eagles fan in exile.

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